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Usually, after recording a podcast episode, Ranell and I would quickly say goodbye to our guests so we could get on with Saturday afternoon activities. We stayed in the Zoom room for over an hour when we recorded our episode with Jennifer Crystal Chien. When listening back, I realized the richness of the conversation. Jennifer has a unique theory of change regarding correcting systemic wrongs and harms that BIPOCs and true coconspirators in the documentary community experience.  While Ranell and I loved our work at the IDA, it was consistently hampered by a work culture rooted in white supremacy, patriarchy, and anti-blackness. The demands of white male filmmakers and white female co-workers were centered on policy implementation and day-to-day operations. Post-traumatic Non-Profit Syndrome is real, and I, like many in similar organizations, became “the problematic Woman of Color.” For more on this, check out the graphic on the COCo (the Centre for Community Organizations) website created by Safehouse Progressive Alliance for Nonviolence. Thembe Bhebe of the European Film Mart and the Carribean Fim Academy introduced me to Jemma Desai’s work “This Work isn’t for Us” in 2020. It was her writing, along with the list of demands from the former and current BIPOC employees of  BIPOC at the Columbia Film Society, theatre artists, as well as the mentorship, community of support of ArtEquity, Somatic Abolition practices, and my therapist, that helped me to find come to come to terms my experiences, find my voice and create the change I needed. I hope this episode will give BIPOCs and white coconspirators committed to anti-racism the strength to advocate for themselves and the filmmakers they serve. The following discussion between myself, Jennifer, and Ranell also planted the seed for the panel Ranell planned and moderated at the International Documentary Association’s Getting Real 2022, entitled Collateral Damage and Institutional Repair which featured <a href="https://www.sarahtaiblack.com">Sarah-Tai Black</a> (Critic, Programmer, and Curator), <a href="https://linktr.ee/iamjemmadesai">Jemma Desai </a>(Creator of “This Work Isn't For Us”), Cintia Gil (Programmer), Lalita Krishna (Producer/Director), and<a href="https://www.rachelpronger.com"> Rachel Pronger</a> (Curator and Producer). In the spirit of discernment and mental health, the song for this episode is Kenny Rogers' “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo">The Gambler</a>.” In the documentary non-profit space, you need to know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to walk away, and when to run. If you liked this special episode, please share it with a friend dealing with Post Traumatic Non-Profit Syndrome. If you have any resources you’d like me to add to this page, please email the link.

What's Up with Docs Podcast

Special Episode - "The Gambler" - BIPOC & Co-conspirator Liberation within the Doc Industry - An Informal Conversation

In this episode, I speak with filmmaker, mentor, activist, and co-founder of Re-Present Media, Jennifer Crystal Chien. During our conversation, we chatted about how she got into docs, her commitment to advocacy, and the field-building and changing work at Re-Present Media. Jennifer's theory of change for the field is rooted in liberation and the spirit of the song she picked for this week’s episode by the late great Curtis Mayfield, “Keep On Keeping On.”

Episode 40 - Episode 40 - Jennifer Crystal Chien - “Keep On Keeping On"

Episode 39 - Marion Schmidt - “Freedom”

During this conversation, I speak with the filmmaker, archivist, and the artistic director of Dox Box, Jihan El Tahri about the manifesto, “Liberate the Image.” The manifesto was a call to action to make archives more accessible to content creators living in the Global South. During the conversation we discussed:

Archival preservation of assets of those who are part of the Global Majority

Who gets to monetize archives and when does monetization make access to historical assets prohibitive

The role archivists play in the preservation of history and limitations due to limited staff, storage capacity, and adequate facilities. 

Access to non-commercial archives such as museums, community organizations, and individuals

Licensing struggles across the borders

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